Category: Burgertime


I found a fully working Burgertime PCB for $85 that I mentioned in a previous post from a person I have dealt with in the past.  Talk about excited, I could finally get the game up and running!  I posted on the forums and I was the first post wanting to buy the PCB.  My excitement didn’t last long though… I got an email back yesterday stating that someone else sent an email before me and I was not getting the PCB.  That sucked to say the least.

On a positive note I did find another Non-working PCB for $40 shipped.  I swapped the roms from my other set into it last night and it plays perfectly although the graphics are rolling and distorted.  This is probably because the boardsets are slightly different; I have to add two 24 pin ROM sockets to make then the same.

Just a little tidbit:  Burgertime PCBs come in three different versions.  The first is for the Deco cassette system, the second being the Data East boardset and third being the Bally/Williams boardset.  The cassette system is totally different than the others.  The DE and B/W sets look very similar with the only differences being a few extra caps on the DE set.  The sockets aren’t exactly the same but there are empty positions for sockets on the DE boardset.  Hopefully when I add these two sockets and populate the board it will work 100%.

It’s done cosmetically!  Looking pretty good IMHO.  I decided to keep it mostly original so I did not paint the bottom of the sides, I just cleaned it up.  The inside is clean as well.  Pictures:

I just got another untested Burgertime boardset in today so once I have a working boardset this will be 100%.

Well my PCB is having all sorts of issues.  Once I replaced 15C the game went into game mode (hurrah!!) but the game was going nuts like it was overclocked.  I went into test mode and it acts like a coin switch is stuck on during certain tests.  I went into the DIP switch test mode and I noticed that one of the dip switches is rapidly switching on and off.  Further investigation shows that DIP switch 2 is not changing state like it should.  Looks like I have more work cut out for myself with this PCB!

The positive thing is I found a fully working PCB for $85.  I’m going to buy that and put it in the game so I can play it and fix this one at my leisure.  It will be a good spare once I have figured out what is wrong.

Burgertime is almost completely done!  I installed the CPO this past weekend and cleaned up the joystick.  T he panel has been reassembled and installed on the game.  I only have my board issues and I need to fix the back door and this is complete!

Pictures to come :)

Burgertime – Troubleshooting the PCB

My Burgertime PCB has a small issue;  it doesn’t want to get out of test mode.  There are two switches inside the coin door to run tests on Burgertime.  There are also two dip switch positions on DIP SW1 on the PCB to do the same thing (positions 5 and 6).  I have verified that my coin door switches are working properly so it has to be on the PCB.

The logic is pretty simple;  the DIP switch supplies power to a 74LS367AN (Chip 15C on the PCB).  The voltage changes when the DIP switch is ON or OFF.  The game in turn interprets a high or low voltage as being ON or OFF.   With the help of a good friend (Thanks Erik!!) I first got a good grasp of what is happening here and how to test for it.  Once I knew my logic was correct I did the following:

Step 1:  Which IC is responsible for DIP SW1?

The first step was to trace DIP switch positions 5 and 6 to the proper 74LS367AN.  I looked at the traces and discovered that 15C is where it leads to.  BTW you can also read the schematic to figure this out too.

Step 2:  Get some intel on a 74LS367AN

Now that I know which chip to test and which pins on 15C are the inputs my next step is figure out the outputs.  This was easy to figure out thanks to a datasheet.  This tells me that pins 11 and 13 are the outputs.

Step 3:  Verify that the DIP switch is working

Next I needed to verify that the DIP switch was working and is supplying 15C with voltage at its input pins.  With positions 5 and 6 set to OFF there is no voltage on 15C.  With them set to ON I am seeing 4.8volts so I know the DIP is working and the pull up resistors are fine.

Step 4:  Check the Outputs of 15C

Now that I know that the DIP is working I can see if there is a change in voltage on 15C’s outputs.  I measured the voltage coming out of PINS 11 and 13.  There was no change in voltage so that had to be the problem!

Step 5:  Replace 15C

Let me just say that old solder SUCKS.  That was the hardest time I have had trying to clear the through holes on the PCB.  I got the IC out fine by cutting its pins but the old solder just wouldn’t budge.   A trick I learned is to take a diode, in this case a 1n4004, and heat up the solder pad and push the lead through. I like using a 1n4004 (or 1n4001 for that matter) because it has a thick lead.  I used it to push through the hole.  Next I put a dab of new solder on the pad and then removed the solder with some solder wick.  One of these days I’m going to invest in a good desoldering station.

Step 6:  Check your work

Since I had so much trouble getting 15C out I damaged a few of the through holes.  So after soldering in the SIP strips I ran a continuity check to make sure the traces are still functional.  Everything checked out fine minus one particular trace I damaged and had to use some wrapping wire to fix it.

NOTE:  Don’t solder late at night when you are tired.  :)   I admit this time I was a bit impatient and did more damage than I needed to.   Also make sure you have the correct solder tip.  My tip was too wide so I wasn’t able to focus the heat properly and that caused some of my issues.

Step 7:  Test the game!

Here is the fun part, testing to see if you solved the problem.  I put the PCB stack back together, reconnected the ribbon cables and fired it up for the first time.  YAY!!  It works!!

So 15C was the problem all along.  Of course now I have discovered a new issue, the game plays super fast!  I went into test mode and now I noticed that the game is acting like someone is holding down button 1.  Looking at the schematic its another 74LS367!  Guess what’s next? :)

Here is a summary of what I found out:

DIP SW1 – Position 6
Goes to 15C – 74LS367AN
Input – Pin 14
Output – Pin 13

DIP SW1 – Position 5
Goes to 15C – 74LS367AN
Input – Pin 12
Output – Pin 11

After letting the monitor chassis sit for a few days to dry I reassembled it and it is nice and clean now!

I have installed new t-moulding, cleaned up the power block and painted the carriage bolts for the game.    The coin door was completely disassembled and tumbled.

Hopefully this will be complete by the end of this week.  Some more pictures:

Last night I cleaned the monitor chassis and I now have it sitting in front of a fan to dry it out (after blowing all water away with a compressor).  It looks super clean!

I finished painting the interior of the cabinet and it looks great.   I started cleaning the power box in the bottom of the cabinet.  It’s pretty dirty.  It has all of these foil stickers on it to tell you which fuses to use that I do not think were reproduced.  I wish I didn’t start cleaning it up because now I am left with a decision.  Do I completely strip it and refinish it and make new stickers?  Or do I clean what I can and keep it original?  I’m leaning towards leaving it where it is but the OCD part of me wants it to look as nice as possible.  Originality is playing a key here.

I have accomplished a few things the past couple of days.

  • Sanded the inside bottom of the cabinet and sealed with Minwax Polycrylic
  • Repainted the black areas surrounding the monitor
  • Cleaned the monitor tube and removed the chassis

I painted the inside of the cabinet with Rustoleum Painter’s Touch Semi-Gloss paint.  It goes on smooth and is the correct sheen for the cabinet.  After painting the black I took some clear engine enamel and covered the black for protection.  It is a slight bit shinier than stock but it looks great.

I still need to:

  • Clean the monitor chassis and re-cap it
  • Rebuild the control panel with a new overlay and buttons
  • Fix the PCB issue
  • Paint the carriage bolts used in the front of the machine to attach the coin box
  • Clean the marquee

Then it will be complete!

I updated my picture gallery here:

http://gallery.metahugh.com/main.php?g2_itemId=2203

Here are some progress pictures for the click lazy :)

I washed the harness in the tub today, WOW it was super dirty!  I want to keep the original labels intact so I put them in a plastic bag and taped the entrance:

I made some progress on Burgertime last night.  I completely stripped the cabinet and put the majority of the metal parts in the tumbler.

Burgertime - Totally Stripped

I didn’t post about it (DOH!) but I cleaned the sides of the cabinet with a Magic Eraser the other day.  What a difference that makes!

Burgertime Left Side - Before Cleaning

Burgertime Left Side - After Cleaning

I love Magic Erasers.  If used correctly they can make just about anything clean.